From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to make emacs stop trying to load /home/sb/.emacs after su to root? Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:33:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <864l3w18ae.fsf@dod.no> <86bly0xxit.fsf@dod.no> <867e8oxx2q.fsf@dod.no> <3D7E0823-F1A4-4C32-8177-143BF1736B6C@easesoftware.com> <86muhjw7ub.fsf@dod.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="267360"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 12 18:34:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlyUs-0017N7-Cw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:34:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51118 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlyUr-0004LQ-4B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50635) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlyUm-0004LJ-O0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlyUl-0003Qu-KE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:39790 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlyUl-0003OC-DU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlyUg-0017Ad-G2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:33:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:XhX1F2MxGdT+dGEjDgNxdSuyLEE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121163 Archived-At: >> You said this is new behavior. Are you sure of that? > Compared to emacs 25 on debian 9.9, this is new behaviour. I can't find any relevant change in Emacs in that timeframe. OTOH it seems that the `su` that comes with Debian may have changed between Debian 9 and Debian 10 (tho whether you see the change or not might depend on whether you did an upgrade or a fresh install). https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster says: The `su` command in buster is provided by the `util-linux` source package, instead of the `shadow` source package, and no longer alters the `PATH` variable by default. the change mentioned doesn't explain the difference you're seeing, but maybe this other `su` has other changes (w.r.t $LOGNAME and $USER) which do. Stefan "who always uses `su -`"