From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs documentation sources Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <711a73df0709260104l97cb41ft5fee3a882cef05c9@mail.gmail.com> <85ve9x431f.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85y7eseiom.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <858x6reucb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190994238 4065 80.91.229.12 (28 Sep 2007 15:43:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:43:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 28 17:43:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IbI04-0005J9-Ua for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:43:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IbI01-00082d-Hb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:43:29 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.umontreal.ca!news.umontreal.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:36:35 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:y2zM8fxeCqALgJtNVz2yKK073ks= Original-Lines: 24 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.204.27.213 Original-X-Trace: sv3-ZY75QTe3VYspeKaVgKS5gMOtT61viIY4hIfIxMo3Da1ThS59e6Jmi8ZH9XWINUAyeVZK/KzgPCDJyuQ!YJsOwN7D46URgCy+F1epPIwLREOKj7xzSb4zLSP5fGkId+ArQGRuTZ6mcCfjur5OwjwOarIzlBFL!VmaVymrOT46t53fXAw== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.36 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:152446 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47955 Archived-At: >> > Do you really claim that the size of DOC strings is of no concern at >> > all? >> >> Since they reside in the .elc files and/or the DOC file and are only >> ever loaded into memory temporarily when they are actually consulted, >> they take up only disk space, not main memory. Just like the manual. > Perhaps you should re-read th relevant sources before you make such > assertions. What I see there is that each displayed doc string is > kept in memory twice, and it remains in memory until the next GC. > So, temporary or not, the doc strings do in fact occupy memory for > more than a split second. Absolutely negligible. If you add 10KB to a docstring (i.e. a *lot* more text), that will add in the order of 10-20KB to the Emacs process on the conditions that the user has looked at that docstring. I.e. it will bump the process's size from maybe 10MB to 10.02MB. If you add 10KB to each and every docstring ever written, then the process size will grow by about 10KB times the number of docstring viewed in *Help*. Absolutely negligible. Stefan