From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing the language of gnus menu entries Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87eh8eekza.fsf@web.de> <874n9amatr.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380052172 25541 80.91.229.3 (24 Sep 2013 19:49:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:49:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 24 21:49:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOYc0-0006Ao-Nt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:49:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47661 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOYc0-00015U-9M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:49:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49243) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOYbj-00013j-Qz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:49:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOYbc-00036f-IJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOYbc-00036M-B6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOYba-0005tm-38 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:49:06 +0200 Original-Received: from 184.175.13.25 ([184.175.13.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:49:06 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 184.175.13.25 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:49:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 184.175.13.25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SvDa/kTAGieU+tVLpSS/Exhjzxo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93538 Archived-At: > Thanks for that hint. The thread above is really interesting! But it's > sad to read that i18n support probably will never show up in emacs. At > least, I don't know anyone to volunteer. :-) Doing good i18n of Emacs is indeed a very difficult undertaking, since Emacs's design makes the source code very visible to the end-user, where i18n would require some "mapping" layer to translate source-code words to the language used by the user. This said, I'd welcome an effort to start on this long road. Handling most of the menus shouldn't be hard, for example. Stefan