From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : indentation Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:04:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20210427090348.67C9B5D0@centrum.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ARx45Hh/9tzIDu/vCnVhvCkeZrk= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 27 19:06:30 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbRAM-000A0B-CP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:06:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41140 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbRAL-0007yF-EM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36178) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbR9B-0007xl-Tv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:52544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbR93-00045s-Ml for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:05:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbR8w-0008AL-2R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:05:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:129168 Archived-At: > This "modernization" was yet another attempt to make Emacs > seem more like other apps some people might be used to. Huh? This modernization was pretty much a unilateral choice made by yours truly, and I have no idea what "other apps" do in this regard, so the intention was definitely not what you state. Instead, it was based on a mix of my personal preference, a look at the behavior of existing major modes (many of the most popular programming modes having explicit rebindings of RET to some kind of "newline+indent" command), and a desire to promote this new mode in the hope to speed up the elimination of those mode-specific RET keybindings which really aren't mode-specific at all in most cases but just reflect the personal preference of their author. I know full well that it disagrees with some users, but there has been surprisingly few complaints over this change, so in retrospect I think I made the right call (something which is always pretty hard to know beforehand). Stefan