From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: `apply-partially` and hash tables Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:04:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <861q0b2jpo.fsf@fastmail.fm> <867ca27qfe.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9649"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 20 19:05:24 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t2ZMq-0002Ml-1A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 19:05:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2ZMK-0003uF-MM; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2ZMJ-0003u1-9Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:04:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2ZMH-0003Dn-OG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:04:50 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D0133100126; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:04:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1729443887; bh=qO54vi0m+Xbt4MoFgWp0k5pjto+HrrOfCFQwrStd/EU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=eZ21ZR4KIEraeMHzR7DZ1UWhmwjOGkBCQKd9EucNdwtRCZMBoxmHpkZzKenveGE9r s19hNXV3UnFcIY3xCTfDmt5Rtqjf3639gGAbz2gvRXJF9WCh4GbWF84Ppeive8DiFR N+TdZ4BenjepwV+9wxUIlZ73lpof7IkoKJkdmeWhXhLFOq66MCnMMBo7KsFxieEvnl nx4dKNJAj7DdjPODKdJCWhW4fiOMNh+X3+4FZWfdM1r9awNFlXTabZmw56AEi6iufP WCdqhqZq+a8qL3UQvMdwnPJVDcAS3TiCvjyB4uHdsceMZNdmdJ/eUuMe8pKwTRY8lm v3r1BPf397ElA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 322D3100042; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (69-196-161-60.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.161.60]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8D3912009D; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 13:04:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <867ca27qfe.fsf@fastmail.fm> (Joost Kremers's message of "Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:19:17 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148194 Archived-At: > My question is the same, though: can it be relied upon? It's fundamental to the notion of what is a *value* (as in "call by value"), so yes, very much so. Stefan