From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: `cl-macs' [was: about keysee] Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:56:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28432"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:6v6vs0g9J1KPaOTCg9fMf6KS2Mc= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 12 16:57:00 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p4lAq-0007Aw-JC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:57:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4lAQ-0005bP-FW; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:56:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4lAO-0005Z1-Qs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:56:32 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4lAN-0003pD-7j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:56:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p4lAL-0006SK-Go for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:56:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141680 Archived-At: > It's not just about changes within the `cl-lib' circus. > Some of my libraries are compatible back to earlier > releases that predate `cl-lib' (added in Emacs 23). `cl-lib` was added in Emacs-24.3. But the one in GNU ELPA works at least since Emacs-20 (I remember changing its code to make it work there (e.g. the (fboundp 'defvaralias) test), it might also work in Emacs-19 and if not it wouldn't be too hard to make it work there I think). > And `cl-macs' does still contain the macros. Loading `cl-macs` definitely won't define `cl-remove-if` in Emacs<24.3. Same holds for most of the macros it defines (because they changed name at that point). Stefan