From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Morally equivalent Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:13:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y1tfzhzm.fsf@undisclosedlocation.com> <877d0zfjqa.fsf@web.de> <87h703e445.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11315"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:bbQqaIvT96QNKeGVedzagP85lbY= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 03:14:53 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okEiT-0002jV-2O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:14:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57482 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okEiR-0006rF-Jj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:14:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39472) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okEhU-0006r4-Hd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:13:52 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:58102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okEhP-0006zl-Fw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okEhM-0001Fo-RX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:13:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140044 Archived-At: Eduardo Ochs [2022-10-16 20:47:29] wrote: > It is "some sort of technical term": [...] > http://eugeniacheng.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cheng-morality.pdf While I enjoyed reading that article (thank you for the link), I'm not sure my fateful use of that term in that docstring coincides with what the article talks about. The article's notion of "morally equivalent" seems to have a much more charged meaning (IIUC it implies that we really believe it to be equivalent, tho without proof). I think my use here matches the description given by Tomas where "morally" was just another way to say "more or less": I know for a fact that it's not always equivalent, tho it often is (and when it isn't, the difference can be justified as an "intuitive" or "natural" consequence of the difference in syntax). Stefan