From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for Windows Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:34:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874mvcc1jh.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2a0bfwu.fsf@gnu.org> <83y4so9jjy.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbns9d5j.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnpjaipi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412966101 19741 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2014 18:35:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:35:01 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 10 20:34:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcf1i-0003G6-Oj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:34:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50337 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcf1i-0005Cw-Dw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcf1L-00050m-MP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:34:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcf1E-0007pH-5n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:34:31 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcf1D-0007p1-WF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:34:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcf1C-0002we-KD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:34:22 +0200 Original-Received: from 69-196-168-232.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.196.168.232]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:34:22 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-196-168-232.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:34:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-196-168-232.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HNIiD0YEVENc/7MAr3BtHcsfjbo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:100391 Archived-At: >> I mean, distribution via zip files is so painful for the user who has to >> figure out on his own how to upgrade from one version to another, plus >> all the dependencies, etc... > If the package is done well, then all the dependencies are already > bundled. And then all you need is unzip the file. How hard can that > be? How is that going to tell you when a bugfix release has been released? How is that going to choose where to unzip? How is that going to uninstall the old version? And of course, you end up with umpteen copies of the dependencies, but I guess only anal-retentive nit pickers will care about the wasted disk and RAM space. >> How do people live with that? > I can tell you that no one ever asked me to provide the binary zips I > upload in any other form. Which makes me think there is no problem. In the absence of a package manager, there's of course no other form that could be requested, indeed. Stefan