From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why is Elisp slow? Date: Sun, 05 May 2019 08:51:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83muk4obfd.fsf@gnu.org> <20190502214006.4fdsinp7u5xuqvdv@Ergus> <20190503004416.xfuzzucflp6bxpuz@Ergus> <20190503103644.63lccjehmzulaojn@Ergus> <456EE4D4-F542-4F6A-B146-E6B9D72AE93B@icloud.com> <83tvebn1we.fsf@gnu.org> <20190503125832.44ovncaxp3vyjsla@Ergus> <20190504133218.g3ysx3ksuyvlthg3@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="204733"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 05 14:51:59 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hNGcZ-000r7E-8S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 14:51:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40771 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNGcU-00048F-Pz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 08:51:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44031) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNGcJ-000486-WD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 08:51:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNGcJ-0002Kx-3c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 08:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:53154) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hNGcI-0002KW-VO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2019 08:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id x45Cpeu2019238; Sun, 5 May 2019 08:51:40 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 41AB46A7EB; Sun, 5 May 2019 08:51:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Ergus's message of "Sun, 05 May 2019 02:43:43 +0200") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6539=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6539> : inlines <7072> : streams <1820641> : uri <2840800> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120205 Archived-At: > the last months). New programmers generations only know python and some > C-like languages but specially OOP and maybe is the moment to think a bit in > the future of the project more than in the past. Even if that implies taking This describes the situation from today just as well as that from 10 years ago, 20 years, and even 30 years ago. Rewriting all Emacs packages in the language-du-jour every 10 years doesn't sound very realistic. Stefan