From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "transient-define-suffix" autoload error ? Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1730"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor To: David Masterson Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 19 23:37:10 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sK2zO-0000Hs-I6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sK2yx-0001Ul-Vd; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sK2yw-0001UW-O7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sK2yv-0007B5-1t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:42 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2C8EA8091C; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:38 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1718832996; bh=0Aq+4VTW3HYzbx/Byi0A4DIfI0im1ATs453pkgxsOqo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Yo2SYseQJblqZM+SkHhOJgBW4EqJWqBVdSXGtrlzXwT+o98TXurBh2AfqGd95GUh0 KoW6HWnshi1gJGviROwGVLL2Bqoxixu0Er4BxcspCTAcG0Fo6az2mnHFTVmAZyo4ou 1jWNW/3Ch3jGRreUS6+8Ru9b/zoE6SvD+87Q82hyn1zp7hGnxRZTWC2sadYs5O/6vM Y9qaIbMiaV/g9zMAFCt3fi8J2JasITCTtiNxewJi1i4pOvEaafWXHT4HN5HBn5zafQ Uur/rmLZlcQOmMBduiNcdSdP2j+45nhiGVVTI5NIttIDf17PLzT3ZB3tor3WNwIIUu T8nDlhrckaFTw== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C0CE7801BF; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD8DA12067A; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:36 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (David Masterson's message of "Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:24:46 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:146916 Archived-At: > What is it that initializes the load-path to include all the packages in > ~/.emacs.d/elpa -- package-initialize? Nowadays it's `package-activate-all`, which is normally called by Emacs between `early-init.el` and `init.el` (i.e. just before loading your ~/.emacs`). > I think there is something wrong > with this part of my .emacs with respect to emacs -Q: With `emacs -Q`, Emacs does not call `package-activate-all`, so before manually loading your `~/.emacs` you may have to manually call `package-activate-all`. >> `.eln` files are indexed by the SHA of the corresponding `.elc`, so if >> there's no `.elc` of if it has changed, you should never get some left >> over `.eln` file instead. > > I noticed a few packages had been updated and both the old and new > version had eln files in the cache. Throwing away old `.eln` files is actually a bit difficult to do automatically, so they tend to accumulate, indeed. But Emacs should never load old `.eln`s because when loading a `.eln` file is looks for it based on the hash of the `.elc` file it would have loaded instead. Stefan