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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
	<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: "transient-define-suffix" autoload error ?
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:36:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmsng4o1q.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <LV8P223MB092011CB7BB82C582A55FC5FA2CF2@LV8P223MB0920.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (David Masterson's message of "Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:24:46 -0700")

> What is it that initializes the load-path to include all the packages in
> ~/.emacs.d/elpa -- package-initialize?

Nowadays it's `package-activate-all`, which is normally called by Emacs
between `early-init.el` and `init.el` (i.e. just before loading your
~/.emacs`).

> I think there is something wrong
> with this part of my .emacs with respect to emacs -Q:

With `emacs -Q`, Emacs does not call `package-activate-all`, so before
manually loading your `~/.emacs` you may have to manually call
`package-activate-all`.

>> `.eln` files are indexed by the SHA of the corresponding `.elc`, so if
>> there's no `.elc` of if it has changed, you should never get some left
>> over `.eln` file instead.
>
> I noticed a few packages had been updated and both the old and new
> version had eln files in the cache.

Throwing away old `.eln` files is actually a bit difficult to do
automatically, so they tend to accumulate, indeed.  But Emacs should
never load old `.eln`s because when loading a `.eln` file is looks for
it based on the hash of the `.elc` file it would have loaded instead.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-19 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-18  5:21 "transient-define-suffix" autoload error ? David Masterson
2024-06-18  5:47 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-06-18 21:48   ` David Masterson
2024-06-18 22:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-18 23:01     ` David Masterson
2024-06-18 23:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-18 23:51         ` David Masterson
2024-06-19  2:07           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-06-19 21:24             ` David Masterson
2024-06-19 21:36               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2024-06-20  5:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-19  2:17           ` David Masterson

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