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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: special buffer frames again
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 13:02:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlkg8qy5z.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.20.1177976428.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

> I hate to say it, but this is a general problem with Emacs, IMO.  Emacs is
> not very frames friendly, especially when it comes to displaying buffers
> that it traditionally thinks of as "temporary".  My impression is that
> those who design and test Emacs generally do not test much using
> `pop-up-frames' = t (separate frames), and they tend to use functions such
> as `bury-buffer' to end use of a temporary window.  The result, when you
> use frames, is iconification of frames and other uglinesses, when all you
> want is for the frame to be deleted.

Come on, Drew, you *do* know better.  At least one of the core maintainers
(i.e. yours truly) uses such a one-frame-per-buffer setup, so there is some
testing going on.  And more to the point, he specifically wants frames to be
iconified rather than deleted, so this issue of deletion/iconification is
100% orthogonal.

But yes, most other users of Emacs use few frames.  And I tend to believe
that they're more efficient for it, because unless you use a window-manager
that can be controlled efficiently from the keyboard (which basically
implies a tiled window-manager), managing frames is inefficient.

Me?  I don't even know how to touch type, so efficiency is clearly not
a concern ;-)


        Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-01 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.20.1177976428.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-01  1:53 ` special buffer frames again Tyler Smith
2007-05-01 17:02 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-05-01 18:11   ` Tyler Smith
2007-05-01 19:29     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-01 20:05       ` Tyler Smith
2007-05-01 18:38   ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <mailman.65.1178053867.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-03 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-03 15:33   ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <mailman.54.1178045180.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-05-01 19:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-01 21:04   ` Drew Adams
2007-04-30 19:33 Tyler Smith
2007-04-30 23:32 ` Drew Adams

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