From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why use CTL-x CTL-c to quit instead of CTL-x CTL-q? Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 11:40:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:p7AsSI0UZhBawApdyxSF6xorutw= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 06 17:41:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lTnpP-000070-Hv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2021 17:41:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37576 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lTnpO-0002Jr-J1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2021 11:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lTnof-0002Gu-JL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2021 11:40:34 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:45024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lTnod-0006oU-Ne for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2021 11:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lTnoT-0009J3-9O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2021 17:40:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128863 Archived-At: >> GNU Emacs first appeared in 1976 or thereabouts (and not on Unix). > Stefan corrected me off-list. It wasn't GNU Emacs, but its predecessor > on ITS. In fact, Wikipedia indicates that Richard Stallman didn't > start on GNU Emacs until 1984, in response to the not-open-source > Gosling Emacs. Actually, AFAIK (that's before my time) he started GNU Emacs because he wanted something like Multics Emacs to be available everywhere (and the use of Lisp as the only implementation language was a hurdle in this respect). He didn't want something like Gosling Emacs either (because that one was using C as the only implementation language since its extension language was not good enough). So he took Gosling Emacs's code as a base (which he mistakenly thought he could use) to make GNU Emacs (an implementation that combined a "mostly Lisp implementation" with a "needs only a C compiler" requirement). Stefan