From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: using use-package Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:51:44 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <67cb463e-41f6-4f37-91ee-15d0fdb5ba9f@googlegroups.com> <20150812180621.32265.2E673ABE@ahiker.mooo.com> <87bnebnyyl.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439560521 15709 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2015 13:55:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:55:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 14 15:55:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQFS3-0004p0-Ml for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:55:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46384 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQFS3-0004ED-3T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:55:19 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6551a55313eeb1483cdfad32ce9cec6d"; logging-data="15638"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+MrmCW/cWBc9Lgci29+XTn" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:d6l1U/konketl2wv5hLLDURhBWo= sha1:nPokYS/Kfv93majlSdltMQr0ZuA= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:214298 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106582 Archived-At: > What I do not appreciate is the flat, alphabetic, uncommented nature of > that file. It gives me neither means to organize my customizations is a > logical structure nor means to add commentary. Further it separates faces > from all other package tweaks. FWIW, I agree (tho the uncommented nature is largely bound to the UI: it's pretty hard to provide a GUI that lets you add/maintain good comments to the resulting customizations). > I have resolved this problem by committing to maintaining two copies of my > customizations: > - One automatically created by Customize's 'save for future sessions' > functionality. > - One that I maintain by hand in my .emacs file. Even better (to me [and to Erik Naggum ;-)]) would be if Customize could let you generate and maintain "normal" Elisp code. E.g. when you change a setting, it looks for "(setq )" in your .emacs file, rewrites it to "(setq ) ;Was " and shows you the result. IOW turn Customize into a UI that lets you browse settings and that can show you what code to use to change them. Stefan