From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: General advice beyond Org Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 15:21:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87in7bm4sc.fsf@mbork.pl> <87vab9zizo.fsf@gnuvola.org> <87po1hx8om.fsf@gnuvola.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527535189 30522 195.159.176.226 (28 May 2018 19:19:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 19:19:49 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 28 21:19:45 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fNNgG-0007pe-P9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 21:19:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57551 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNNiM-0001r5-7d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 15:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49685) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNNhk-0001qt-Tt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 15:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNNhg-0005XF-0Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 15:21:16 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:35399) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNNhf-0005VH-RL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 15:21:11 -0400 Original-Received: from lechazo.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id w4SJL9hs018153; Mon, 28 May 2018 15:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: by lechazo.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9F858605E3; Mon, 28 May 2018 15:21:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87po1hx8om.fsf@gnuvola.org> (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "Sun, 27 May 2018 20:19:53 +0200") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 3 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.1, EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6295=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6295> : inlines <6663> : streams <1788070> : uri <2648760> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116886 Archived-At: > My understanding of "freedom from having others do X" hinges on > "having others do X" to mean "delegation of X to others". So, No, I meant that you will have to endure the fact that others will also have the freedom to do X. It makes most sense in cases where X is something like "spit in people's face". Stefan