From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: caching message headers? Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 18:33:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874ko9sgcn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87v9gpqyir.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10951"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 00:33:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFmBG-0002kH-O9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 00:33:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38046 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFmBF-00014b-QO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 18:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFmAx-00014C-Df for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 18:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:1564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFmAv-0006dh-4j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 18:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CF4988025A; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 18:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C7F4980252; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 18:33:13 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1599604393; bh=9n+eNmN033MIf6qwyjT3r8rCphuNFBB4Up3gbOadjEE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=RBA/0lbgjL5CdEvSd3tvcWmU/tJFeCSn/7Isw0wES7aPg0dNBIRb8YgaZA0B6CPWh iwF3/8ImEzsPQvZjd/X+ZnvCGlts9VytyPVUXjW+29VeShBieQ8NC3dDgC4rWiALLC vkN9xr6sGuaCpghikCY1hXZwFNhC93NRLsdeg+pnbKH8ss3Mx29+BImncub+Aa1gxx gQeBlVqjUj372fJd3Rod5zAqgopdJUDncwvLb6GcL1T/pa1jGcyscYMgar5L+AIozJ jzGm8Vj5B2i7P8hGNfyJraH/1o7cmDRTT1+Hm/oLwoJR/HfcSIsqtDyJwICgaYqORa W3Gb7iNZdJlXQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3A1F1205FE; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 18:33:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Gregory Heytings's message of "Tue, 08 Sep 2020 21:52:08 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/08 18:33:15 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124001 Archived-At: >>> Is there a way to tell gnus-agent to create only a cache of headers, that >>> is, to not store a local copy of the emails that have been read? >> Interesting. IMO nowadays MUAs should work by systematically maintaining >> a full local copy of your mailboxes/folders. > I (respectfully!) disagree. This means that each MUA has to reinvent what > already exists on the server, that is, to reinvent its own IMAP-like > implementation, to store emails and to locate information in emails. If your MUA caches some email messages locally across sessions, then it probably already has all that complexity ;-) Stefan