From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: viewing docx files Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:25:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <159e5b8b2e0.2800.9343beaceee5adfd5722805b7ce72987@gmail.com> <20170128160757.GA13233@tuxteam.de> <159e5d90450.2800.9343beaceee5adfd5722805b7ce72987@gmail.com> <87sho2pi1d.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485678506 6463 195.159.176.226 (29 Jan 2017 08:28:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:28:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 29 09:28:22 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cXkq9-00086r-MP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 09:28:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54494 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXkqF-0005yA-1X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:28:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40834) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXjsM-0006WB-4f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:26:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXjsG-0002Y1-1m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:26:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=38824 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXjsF-0002XQ-R3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:26:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cXjrw-0000xg-CD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:25:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:++/U1Fbsk0AD0OqIzF1uNY1p2zo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 03:27:22 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112195 Archived-At: >> BTW, I think many people (including myself) would be interested in an >> alternative to doc-view-mode which renders such documents as (decorated) >> text rather than as images, e.g. going through HTML and then rendered >> with shr.el. > Does `pdf-tools' do anything close? Kind of, except that Emacs doesn't really see the text. pdf-tools does a great job at making the text accessible to Emacs on demand, but all the features have to be supported "by hand". If Emacs could really directly see the text, then C-s would work without any need to write specific code. I.e. there would be no need for pdf-isearch.el, pdf-occur.el, etc... Clearly, it would suck at "rendering faithfully", since Emacs's rendering engine is not sophisticated enough to handle the kind of layouts seen in typical PDF files, so it wouldn't be a competitor to pdf-tools. Stefan