From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:53:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> <7056BAE9-002B-46B7-A60A-9EDE375392EE@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <86FA8DD5-B87E-4E64-90C8-04AA81B9469A@Web.DE> <873aze3qtf.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <579BA8CB-6174-4521-A1CC-4C18722E6BB5@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185345666 1989 80.91.229.12 (25 Jul 2007 06:41:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:41:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 25 08:41:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDaYR-00033z-18 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:41:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDaYQ-00054E-J8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:41:02 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.umontreal.ca!news.umontreal.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:53:21 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/XTeQ+fdcylBE0b/aX/756Nso9Q= Original-Lines: 13 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.204.27.213 Original-X-Trace: sv3-Z6HgcOHGomvjSlRj/61Kk8ZB2/LxhlWz/xuWEDQwZfXUvUiFsqQyUQRnoZ+E3lsU6sn2u+zm3zu8zNW!H6x05ma/rKamViaJTND/rWuxeE4d16PHi2GnKOZqKC5ciNOGftpHJ7Hnh1AtoPKAHHXydotxMEy7!nhMA9tH7HRQb9sEk2w== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.35 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:150442 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:46021 Archived-At: > And there _are_ difficulties, Thien-Thi Nguyen is right in > suggesting that you study the issues first (e.g., by reading past > discussion on the Emacs development list) before dismissing those > difficulties as ``psychological''. I think a more worthwhile plan is to first come up with a sample solution, then see how well it works, what are its most glaring flaws, then try to fix those flaws, etc... I suspect it won't be that hard conceptually, but it will require (minor) changes in most/all Elisp packages, just like Custom did. Stefan