From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : indentation Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:28:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20210427090348.67C9B5D0@centrum.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22659"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 28 00:29:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbWCS-0005kD-QP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 00:29:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbWCR-0000gB-Sc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:28:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbWBq-0000fr-0k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:28:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:15920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lbWBm-000727-6L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 753F2100222; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C5F881000CF; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:28:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1619562490; bh=FPu+IJjUbc2GpMiHLScBpQ/HZ3RT5ESXnpT78DRXVfw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=GmoTX/Pia/HadZIkqQJYwE6nrgF89ycqehjMO/I5qhHysEq+sRuikD2S9ymiuW4RW QJvH/1aD60l4dTvTcUiXeBts9sF2Ce8z1QydlmF3fWJajmKPa5w4KMaGd2DVqwgEtW BufAf4wDQOdOHEebEKaeJDrNcuJoeoDJ0rZYe7dUkXdNUcEh9vb6E2xSnbxeLichOb Hc0qgjf1ExtidZdFEkytDrU96Odm+0rrUByGC7f9/VaDAzCwKdCIIOYnewB57Plzwr jsNaOyZTkvXhOncS2uwFiE7MCkbW241/SDuRFFArfj6+SgkkROnXEfPE+s3eFbXwbj /FiDpWHKSxlHw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.10.47]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98B5C12018F; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:28:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:23:08 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:129180 Archived-At: >>> I know full well that it disagrees with some users, but >>> there has been surprisingly few complaints over this change, >> It's easy enough to turn it off - that's the point. The >> default doesn't matter a lot. But to say that few people >> complained about the change is wrong - misleading, IMHO. > > AFAIK there are 3 types of users: those who want it ON, those who want it > OFF and those who don't care. I'm not sure how those are spread > statistically, but the number of complaints I've seen since the feature > was turned ON suggests that the first type is a small minority. Hmm... I think this came out wrong ;-) I meant the second type is a small minority. It might still be the case that the first type is an even smaller minority, of course, but I find it hard to believe that the 3rd type would be such an overwhelming majority of Emacs users. Stefan