From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Defun Self Documentation Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2020 14:23:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201105154537.GA24492@tuxteam.de> <87y2jfd2wt.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87tuu3wq5b.fsf@zoho.eu> <83d00ra8ia.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn4rwm8e.fsf@zoho.eu> <837dqz9hrl.fsf@gnu.org> <835z6i8ha1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33487"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:savHtMuS9GVPpTxgKIQp90mR+FM= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 06 20:23:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kb7Kt-0008e2-Ds for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 20:23:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46500 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb7Ks-0008FW-Gq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 14:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb7KL-0008FN-To for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 14:23:13 -0500 Original-Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:55908 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb7KJ-0003yW-Ut for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 14:23:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kb7KH-0007q7-4I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 20:23:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/06 10:34:23 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125084 Archived-At: >> But I wonder why we'd recommend other users not to use lexical-binding >> in their `init.el`. > Because the defun special form didn’t work properly in lexically bound contexts. I fail to see the connection. The restriction of `defun` in lexical context was very minor, only affected rather unusual circumstances anyway, and could very easily be circumvented. And I fail to see why it should have affected init.el files more than others. > But since 24.3, the problem with the symbol counter was resolved, I don't know what "problem with the symbol counter" you're referring to. > People can use it without any harm. Of course. Many people do already. Stefan