From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "MIT/GNU/Linux" Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:42:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1167219981.424569.215160@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com> <17810.31823.986927.362052@kamaloka.dhatu> <87odpos1k3.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <877iwbshls.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167810045 32210 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2007 07:40:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 07:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 03 08:40:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H20jp-0003r8-HM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jan 2007 08:40:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H20jo-0000TD-Ta for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:40:40 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.umontreal.ca!news.umontreal.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 00:42:18 -0600 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UcVGioz5qH1QV9VMEqJ9m34xO1c= Original-Lines: 15 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.204.27.213 Original-X-Trace: sv3-A3VMPUpIbZXV+4js/tdePYBfM0e+rJg1aG25oXUIlb1pnxHVp1kxpzwMd0JZcwRuD14Cidsn4mL4hQv!TqbPfKgGvKdjxZD+H9f8o39ZnggOmn7ZgbfcRJzGxnNQy34CWaFZDq+8CahyxV16F39QshuDX3+F!Sz2ow+h13euybEXPGQ== Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:144513 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:40116 Archived-At: > So lemme see... > (1) "Linux" is just kernel > (2) GNU/Linux is the operating system formed by running the GNU tools on > top of that kernel I believe RMS's use of "GNU" in "GNU/Linux" does not really refer to the so-called GNU tools, but the GNU project which endeavored, long before it seemed even remotely possible, to build a 100% Free Software operating system. To this end, it built tools like gcc, it designed licenses such as the GPL, it encouraged other people to release their code under a Free license, and it kind of brought some sense and long term vision to all the "free hacking" that was going on piecemeal around the world. Stefan