From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: limit native compilation - how Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:57:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8735lp57kl.fsf@yandex.com> <87a6fxugwg.fsf@zoho.eu> <83r199ymxj.fsf@gnu.org> <875yqluem4.fsf@zoho.eu> <83pmoszxwx.fsf@gnu.org> <874k64ddwo.fsf@yandex.com> <86h7a4954a.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83czksyszr.fsf@gnu.org> <86zgnv7w9n.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83wnizykig.fsf@gnu.org> <86r1977uu6.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83tue3yiw9.fsf@gnu.org> <86h7a37qzf.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87zgnvdcpw.fsf@zoho.eu> <86czkr7pov.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83o84bye6m.fsf@gnu.org> <86y23f5xxd.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83zgnvwmc1.fsf@gnu.org> <86tue25vo9.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83fspmwjym.fsf@gnu.org> <86pmoq5omh.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40105"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:71WkZY3Abwt5/cVTDqo3L1ZqBoo= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 18 03:57:53 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9egz-000AB3-AS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 03:57:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35036 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9egx-0003v1-96 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:57:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9egP-0003ry-JQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:60544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9egO-0000Gt-2f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:57:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9egL-0009E3-Rm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 03:57:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135406 Archived-At: > I'm wondering if it would be more fluid to compile packages natively > during installation and updating? The user expects then a delay, > anyway, and might be spared small "jerkings" during normal operation.. The native-compiled files will only work with the current Emacs executable, so those packages's .elc files will need to be recompiled when you upgrade to a new Emacs. Hence the current behavior of "compile .elc to native code upon first use" is more or less indispensable. We could additionally eagerly native-compile the .el files when the package is installed, of course, and that should even be easy to do via some hook (or at worst advice) without changing `package.el`. We'll see how it goes. Stefan