From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: using use-package Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:15:20 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <67cb463e-41f6-4f37-91ee-15d0fdb5ba9f@googlegroups.com> <20150812180621.32265.2E673ABE@ahiker.mooo.com> <87bnebnyyl.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439482827 16036 80.91.229.3 (13 Aug 2015 16:20:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:20:27 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 13 18:20:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPvEp-0002mB-QI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:20:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43360 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPvEo-0000IQ-Mg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:20:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 20 Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e2f56d4c0a492c09632a9a28f089180e"; logging-data="12478"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/U8Wkj5aOPpFUH92InslbQ" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xjczSoBD7PrjfNABhfzgtL6P/0M= sha1:ipBVcHP0hqchIVD7mUmBPBKT8js= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:214258 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106542 Archived-At: > I'm still trying to scope what you are after, though. Are you interested > only in those features which can never overlap with ELPA? Or only in > those features will necessarily overlap with ELPA. Not sure either. Maybe I'm looking for something like use-package but which takes better advantage of ELPA. Maybe also one that better integrates with Customize. I guess I'm also interested to see what other users find important in terms of "configuration problems that need solving". Maybe one other aspect is the issue of bootstrap/ordering between package.el and Customize: we want to be able to customize package.el via Customize (and some of these settings may need to be set before package-initialize), but the one-and-only call to custom-set-variables often needs to be done after package-initialize. So, splitting the config "by package" is probably the right way to go about it. Stefan