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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: using use-package
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:13:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwva8twdmi4.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20150812180621.32265.2E673ABE@ahiker.mooo.com

> Stefan is saying that many packages do things _wrong_.

Actually, no.  What I was saying is that several use-package features
are only useful if a package is poorly packaged.

In the mean time, it became apparent that the reason for that is that
I assume people (will) use ELPA to install their packages, whereas
use-package was designed for the case where packages are installed some
other way.

Hence use-package partly overlaps with ELPA, and in those parts that
overlaps, the work is done differently: in ELPA the work is done by the
packager, whereas in use-package the work is done by the end-user (since
there's no packager doing that work for him).


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2015-08-05  5:35 ` using use-package Rusi
2015-08-05  5:57   ` Ian Zimmerman
     [not found]   ` <mailman.7832.1438754275.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-05 16:34     ` Rusi
2015-08-05 17:24       ` Ian Zimmerman
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7851.1438795470.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-06  1:34         ` Rusi
2015-08-06  1:54           ` Ian Zimmerman
     [not found]           ` <mailman.7873.1438826104.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-06  5:06             ` Rusi
2015-08-07 20:11               ` Grant Rettke
     [not found]               ` <mailman.7956.1438978281.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-08  2:36                 ` Rusi
2015-08-08 23:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-10  2:25                     ` Grant Rettke
2015-08-10  9:52                     ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-10 21:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-10 22:32                         ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.8096.1439241947.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-06-28 13:02                         ` Rusi
2016-06-28 13:10                           ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.235.1467119445.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-06-28 13:14                             ` Rusi
2016-06-28 13:30                               ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-28 22:05                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-28 22:34                                   ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-29  7:38                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-29 17:02                                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-29 17:15                                         ` Drew Adams
2016-06-29 17:20                                           ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-30  7:25                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-30  9:04                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-30 14:03                                           ` Phillip Lord
2016-06-30 18:32                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-29  7:28                                   ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.8067.1439200345.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-10 12:14                       ` Rusi
2015-08-11  9:20                       ` Sebastien Vauban
2015-08-11 10:04                         ` Nicolas Richard
2015-08-11 11:05                           ` Alexis
2015-08-11 11:16                             ` Nicolas Richard
2015-08-11 11:25                               ` Alexis
2015-08-11 20:42                         ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-11  5:44                     ` John Wiegley
2015-08-11 15:22                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-11 20:36                         ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-12 16:09                         ` John Wiegley
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.8114.1439272212.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-12 17:52                       ` Rusi
2015-08-12 18:20                         ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-08-13  1:13                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-08-13  7:25                             ` tomas
2015-08-13 15:08                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-13 20:14                                 ` tomas
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.8280.1439496850.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-13 20:31                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-13 21:11                                     ` tomas
2015-08-13 21:52                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-08-13 22:10                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-13 22:12                                       ` John Mastro
2015-08-13 22:25                                         ` Rasmus
2015-08-13 22:50                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-15 13:56                                             ` Rasmus
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.8383.1439647006.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-15 15:46                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-14  4:09                                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-08-13  9:07                             ` John Wiegley
2015-08-13 12:40                             ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-13 15:24                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-13 16:02                                 ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-13 21:19                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-14  9:16                                     ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.8319.1439543792.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-14 13:59                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-14 14:41                                         ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]                                         ` <mailman.8328.1439563291.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-14 16:54                                           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.8263.1439481769.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-13 16:15                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-13 18:40                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-08-14  2:21                                     ` John Yates
2015-08-14  9:35                                     ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.8304.1439518900.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-14 13:51                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-14 16:10                                         ` John Yates
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.8321.1439544925.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-14 14:04                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-14 14:49                                         ` Drew Adams
2015-08-14 16:06                                           ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-14 17:41                                             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.8226.1439428438.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-13  2:07                             ` Rusi
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.7988.1439076276.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-09  2:43                     ` Rusi
2015-08-09 13:17                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-09 16:14                         ` Rusi
2015-08-09 16:25                           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-09 16:45                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-09 17:03                             ` Rusi
2015-08-09 17:17                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-09 17:30                                 ` Rusi
2015-08-09 17:45                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-11  1:23                                   ` Robert Thorpe
2015-08-11  2:05                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-08-11 20:49                                     ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-13 15:27                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-14  5:12                                         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2015-08-14  5:23                                           ` Edward Knyshov
2015-08-14  6:28                                             ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2015-08-14  6:44                                               ` Edward Knyshov
2015-08-14  6:46                                                 ` Edward Knyshov
2015-08-14  6:47                                                   ` Edward Knyshov
2015-08-14  9:29                                             ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.8104.1439256204.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-12 17:46                                     ` Rusi
2015-08-10  2:19                   ` Grant Rettke
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.8054.1439173196.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-10  3:41                     ` Rusi
2015-08-04 15:01 Sharon Kimble
2015-08-04 15:46 ` Chunyang Xu
2015-08-04 16:35 ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-04 18:24   ` Sharon Kimble
2015-08-04 19:18     ` Grant Rettke
2015-08-04 21:24     ` Phillip Lord
2015-08-05  1:20       ` Grant Rettke

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