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* Converting string to symbol
@ 2021-01-03 20:54 excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2021-01-03 21:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2021-01-04  6:25 ` Andreas Röhler
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2021-01-03 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi, 

I want to define a global abbrev with case-fixed property t.  I want this abbrev to appear in the define-abbrev-table definition created by write-abbrev-file.

To my knowledge, there is no native option to do this.  So, I have defined a function which wraps define-abbrev and reads in the table, abbrev name, and expansion from the user.

(defun my-add-case-fixed-abbrev (name expansion &optional table)
  "Add abbrev with case-fixed t property."
  (interactive
   (let ((table (intern-soft (completing-read
          "Abbrev table (global-abbrev-table): "
          abbrev-table-name-list nil t nil nil "global-abbrev-table" )))
         (name (read-string "Abbrev name: "))
         (expansion (read-string "Expansion: ")))
     (list name expansion table)))
  (let ((table (or table global-abbrev-table)))
    (define-abbrev table name expansion nil :case-fixed t)))

Since completing-read returns a string, I convert the string representing the abbrev table to the corresponding symbol using intern-soft.  

However, this causes the error "Wrong-type-argument vectorp global-abbrev-table" when calling explicitly or interactively.

 (my-add-case-fixed-abbrev "my-abbrev" "my-expansion" "global-abbrev-table") ;; causes error

The error doesn't appear when the default argument is used

(my-add-case-fixed-abbrev "my-abbrev" "my-expansion")  ;; uses default arg, no error

I can see that (eq 'global-abbrev-table (intern-soft "global-abbrev-table")) returns t.  How does the symbol created by intern-soft differ from the symbol 'global-abbrev-table' used as the default within let?

I can see that (vectorp (intern-soft "global-abbrev-table")) is nil, so fair enough, table is not a vector.  

If I convert table to a vector using

   (let ((table (vector (intern-soft (completing-read
          "Abbrev table (global-abbrev-table): "
          abbrev-table-name-list nil t nil nil "global-abbrev-table" ))))

I get the error "Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, nil".

I have run each of these with debug-on-error set, but I'm not sure how to interpret the error message.   

Any hint on what's going on here?



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* Re: Converting string to symbol
  2021-01-03 20:54 Converting string to symbol excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
@ 2021-01-03 21:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2021-01-05  4:04   ` excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2021-01-04  6:25 ` Andreas Röhler
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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2021-01-03 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs; +Cc: excalamus

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   Any hint on what's going on here?

The name of the thing is not the thing.  You don't want the
symbol ‘global-abbrev-table’, you want the object that that
symbol references.  See ‘interactive’ form, specifically ‘X’.

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* Re: Converting string to symbol
  2021-01-03 20:54 Converting string to symbol excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2021-01-03 21:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2021-01-04  6:25 ` Andreas Röhler
  2021-01-04  6:32   ` Stefan Monnier
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Röhler @ 2021-01-04  6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs


On 03.01.21 21:54, excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text 
editor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to define a global abbrev with case-fixed property t.

AFAIK Emacs never was able to store and use case-fixed abbreviations.

For example function add-abbrev  closes with the following:

(define-abbrev table (downcase name) exp)





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* Re: Converting string to symbol
  2021-01-04  6:25 ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2021-01-04  6:32   ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2021-01-04  6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

> AFAIK Emacs never was able to store and use case-fixed abbreviations.

Where "never" means "not before Emacs-24"?


        Stefan




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* Re: Converting string to symbol
  2021-01-03 21:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2021-01-05  4:04   ` excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2021-01-05  4:44     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2021-01-06  2:51     ` excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2021-01-05  4:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thien-Thi Nguyen; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs

I see, thank you very much.

Ideally, I would like global-abbrev-table to be the default.  With (interactive X...) I don't see how to do that.  

When I run M-x my-test <RET>, I get read--expression: End of file during parsing.  The function halts immediately and doesn't evaluate the body.  I'm not sure how I could catch that.  

(defun my-test (expr)
  "test interactive X behavior."
  (interactive  "XLisp expression: ")
  (message "before compare")  (if expr
      (message "%s" expr)
    (message "is nil"))
  (message "after compare"))

I assume read--expression is being used within (interactive X...).  It's not documented and I didn't have much luck trying to use it (not detailing those efforts here since it's really not meant for "public" use).



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* Re: Converting string to symbol
  2021-01-05  4:04   ` excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
@ 2021-01-05  4:44     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2021-01-06  2:51     ` excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2021-01-05  4:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

excalamus wrote:

> When I run M-x my-test <RET>, I get read--expression: End of
> file during parsing. The function halts immediately and
> doesn't evaluate the body. I'm not sure how I could
> catch that.
>
> (defun my-test (expr)
>  "test interactive X behavior."
>  (interactive "XLisp expression: ")
>  (message "before compare") (if expr
>  (message "%s" expr)
>  (message "is nil"))
>  (message "after compare"))
>
> I assume read--expression is being used within (interactive
> X...). It's not documented and I didn't have much luck
> trying to use it (not detailing those efforts here since
> it's really not meant for "public" use).

I don't understand a lot but

(defun print-lisp (expr)
  (interactive "xlisp: ")
  (message "lisp: %s" expr) )

M-x print-lisp RET (+ 1 1) RET

"lisp: (+ 1 1)"

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* Re: Converting string to symbol
  2021-01-05  4:04   ` excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2021-01-05  4:44     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
@ 2021-01-06  2:51     ` excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: excalamus--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2021-01-06  2:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thien-Thi Nguyen; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs

I got it.  Simply grab the symbol's value once it's been interned.  Thanks again for your help :)
(defun my-add-case-fixed-abbrev (name expansion &optional table)
  "Add fixed case abbrev with NAME and EXPANSION into TABLE.

TABLE is optional; defaults to `global-abbrev-table'."
  (interactive
   (let ((table (symbol-value (intern-soft (completing-read
          "Abbrev table (global-abbrev-table): "
          abbrev-table-name-list nil t nil nil "global-abbrev-table"))))
         (name (read-string "Abbrev name: "))
         (expansion (read-string "Expansion: ")))
     (list name expansion table)))
  (let ((table (or table global-abbrev-table)))
    (define-abbrev table name expansion nil :case-fixed t)))





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