From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 17:54:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fv77barj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zj5fgpd8.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a8xft9ra.fsf@gnu.org> <87fv77gl6m.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <876183t6u3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431122136 29855 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2015 21:55:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 21:55:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 08 23:55:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YqqEw-00039Q-Ba for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 23:55:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57694 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqqEv-0005oO-Tf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 17:55:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44481) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqqEl-0005oH-HW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 17:55:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqqEh-0007uO-Hb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 17:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YqqEh-0007rX-Aj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 17:55:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YqqEe-00030s-F3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 23:55:08 +0200 Original-Received: from 69-165-139-108.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.165.139.108]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 May 2015 23:55:08 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-165-139-108.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 May 2015 23:55:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-165-139-108.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1oHzTHYRssVPNLgcW6vzHb1+4ak= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104312 Archived-At: >> After that, it starts talking about Windows which, of course, are not >> windows. > Maybe with Emacs 30, we'll replace frame by window, and window by > pane. :-) Sounds about right. If all goes according to plan, that will be right around the time when more than half of our users have never seen a desktop/laptop GUI and hence have no idea what is a "window". Stefan