From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: removing the toolbar Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:02:24 GMT Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097165078 8333 80.91.229.6 (7 Oct 2004 16:04:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 07 18:04:29 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CFakm-00081Q-00 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:04:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFarX-00033D-7T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:11:27 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!207.35.177.252!nf3.bellglobal.com!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!charlie.risq.qc.ca!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:A553hhnJN2dlTUjK9fXFPH2Nj7Y= Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.204.24.84 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca Original-X-Trace: charlie.risq.qc.ca 1097164944 132.204.24.84 (Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:02:24 EDT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:02:24 EDT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:125762 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:21124 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:21124 > instance initialises it starts up with the specified size but then removes > the toolbar and gets shorter by the space the toolbar took up previously. When you start Emacs, it begins by creating a frame, then reads your .emacs. So when it creates the frame, it hasn't seen yet that you want the toolbar to be turned off. After the .emacs is read, the frame is reconfigured to correspond to the new settings. If you think this behavior should be changed, please send a feature request to gnu.emacs.bug. E.g. I've changed my Emacs to create the initial frame *after* reading the .emacs file so as to avoid/reduce those problems (but then all the "loading" messages from my .emacs are sent to stderr). As someone mentioned, you can fix your particular problem by using Xresources because these are read before creating the initial frame. Stefan