From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 21:15:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0b72021c-139f-4269-8e81-5b5ef97fb83d@googlegroups.com> <8761yu64e4.fsf@Servus.decebal.nl> <87r4higq45.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip2tyftv.fsf@yahoo.fr> <87sj1xs9df.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <20130508194906.GA11349@hysteria.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368062140 11934 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2013 01:15:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 01:15:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 09 03:15:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UaFSM-0006AD-JH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 03:15:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40586 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaFSM-0006O1-3B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 21:15:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaFS9-0006Nl-1F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 21:15:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaFS6-0001e4-JB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 21:15:24 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaFS6-0001e0-CT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 21:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UaFS4-0005oD-70 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 03:15:20 +0200 Original-Received: from 184.175.6.252 ([184.175.6.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 May 2013 03:15:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 184.175.6.252 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 May 2013 03:15:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 184.175.6.252 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z2mpBx50FS3EYXdw/Btvyd90XPA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90559 Archived-At: > But emacs will always ask you if it should proceed due to that issue. > It will never do it automatically. It isn't intrinsically insecure. Well, that depends how paranoid you are. It used to be intrinsically insecure (only prompting the user for things known to be dicey) and has been improved over the years (always prompting unless told that it's safe), but there are so many variables marked as "safe" that might be used in unexpected ways by so many packages that "intrinsically secure" sounds naive. More specifically, I'd be *very* surprised if there aren't any "big security holes" waiting to be exploited in Emacs. > And you would need to be exposed to hostile user attack in order to > trigger it. Yes. I think that's what keeps you safe. Stefan "who uses Zile when running as root"