From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: hooks, again Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 16:31:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87twvzx252.fsf@debian.uxu> <55426DFE.2050600@nihilo.net> <87y4l9p04r.fsf@debian.uxu> <871tj1gdep.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87fv7bkca3.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87d22f55x6.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87mw1i1sez.fsf@debian.uxu> <87k2wmo09q.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twvp7bxy.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430944346 6368 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2015 20:32:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 20:32:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 06 22:32:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq5zM-0001Bx-CZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 22:32:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47007 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq5zL-0008Gz-HW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 16:32:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq5zA-0008Gg-TV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 16:32:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq5z4-000794-KS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 16:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq5z4-00078a-Cv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 16:31:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq5z0-0000x9-Os for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 22:31:54 +0200 Original-Received: from 69-165-139-108.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.165.139.108]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 May 2015 22:31:54 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-165-139-108.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 May 2015 22:31:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-165-139-108.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xtdNZQn4F0omjMzAIB43AJOCa5Q= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104249 Archived-At: >> But as seen earlier, you have to look at the value >> of `foo-hook' before this setq takes place to be >> sure it's safe. So you still need "the help or >> evaluation of the variable name or anything". > Yes, but only once. By the same argument, you'd also only need to do it once when using `add-hook'. > Che Guevara said revolutionaries aren't normal people. So, IIUC, you're heading a revolution to kill all uses of add-hook, tho only those performed by the end user in her ~/.emacs and only on those few "safe" hooks like major-mode hooks where it makes no difference? Wow, that's bold! Stefan