From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Netiquette is way to go Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:17:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <878rq2gyoc.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h74pc9rj.fsf@yahoo.com> <2bH7K25550hkjKc8JqVwoMCHFJiDwAcG221_VDJ47DDaDrNSdv9RnOHrXb6JsFROJsTsocQ2TvDgKZhZvEblgh_JfVbCrWdiJOYh7WmIdck=@protonmail.com> <838rq0vl6h.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12615"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 13 15:22:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0k1l-00037H-1C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:22:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59946 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0k1i-0006et-8q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:22:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57906) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0jwk-0001dh-TW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]:16831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0jwi-0002xR-UD; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:17:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1655126249; x=1655385449; bh=OdDgxAGn0EfIxPGzMee5Tfh+vvatmfRYJ8bq8g1VcnQ=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=o/RlZuOLs3+Gk6xfZ10oRO5IzgSOyrpDsup5z87o0n0EsG36T648YEOf1sCczg8t4 FJPUF/gdzj46UNpGdMD+tbmuhdjYvXPEJB7gjfxasg7Rv32/N7RUnFAXH5GRhFM+KB IPk35UllgshfSsrI/VYcn2wEsSoyBS2nqzDLP/7rKZYASptZwP8SOnUasJrswoLyF1 s/eOaqLq5wBsvl1k0qH0ofwYvjKwEDIcMAP4GLq6DYXrlO9xpulJh4Ld4IMByv5jvH g1J4DiVJp+c35kChwpz70rKrwsMQs3C3RVVcHzWwgJeqo04Cc1yFXsHeRVDW9t/sDS 1Yc0mvUgkTL3w== In-Reply-To: <838rq0vl6h.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.19; envelope-from=goncholden@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4319.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137792 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Monday, June 13th, 2022 at 11:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:18:24 +0000 > > From: goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com > > Cc: Po Lu luangruo@yahoo.com, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org, help-gnu-emac= s@gnu.org > > > > I asked how to stop the removal of tabs from previous line after hittin= g return. The previous line was legacy code I did not want to touch. Had no= idea about electric-indent. The "help" I got was that of Eli, bragging abo= ut how powerful and customisable emacs is and how it does not make sense di= sabling automatic indentation. > > > Lies and insinuations. > > Anyone who wants an independent opinion of my "help" is invited to > read the archives of this thread. Is telling me that disabling automatic indentation does not make sense a li= e too ??? > > Even though mentioning electric-indent-mode would have solved my proble= m so that I can continue with what I need to do. > > > You never explained your problem well enough for me to understand that > the problem was with the previous line. You talked about pressing TAB > that mysteriously caused tab characters to be deleted, and about your > need to have TAB insert a literal tab character. Go read the archives ! The problem was with the previous line. Then I sta= rted trying to insert multiple literal tabs, which were getting removed eve= n when using literal tabs with `C-q TAB`. There is no point to continue arguing over it. Asking to disable something= is not nonsense. Your precept about choosing another editor prevented you= from appreciating the validity of my assertions. I could be more pragmati= c and harshly critical of certain strategies, but of help to you and the pr= oject if we can laugh it off whilst still taking the technical comments on-= board.