From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 07:06:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83leu3y0hs.fsf@gnu.org> <83h74rxze0.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkuzxvur.fsf@gnu.org> <878rq2gyoc.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37375"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 12 09:10:34 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Hk2-0009b3-12 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 09:10:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58206 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Hk0-00033c-Uj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 03:10:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Hgm-0001AS-Cq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 03:07:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:30883) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Hgj-0007e3-88 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 03:07:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1655017623; x=1655276823; bh=bI898AWLtKGoz173cjqXza9c9449YsFSvWYL0FdK29Y=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=cZJ/jOSMp4T5YXGbFQk/FS/eI6DEPGQLJwQlgfQtnLwL7WSNnvXL4glwAtTSWuyGi wZXLOHxCafsgWxEsVhcWrCelIsCsYf6UdB7PYxFDE9HPXmEIEeqgHc5B1srkdSvnCl NcqN8z6+n7VK7hvlPcjB8oQkjEveiUNnrESL6RZiduyo6KSi/MAOF8+N2vOdDszXcR JcsQwJKeDB4I5WwKt7COSjBAkM3VmOyqQllS9K1Z5dHPAUUwySq8SGUNAIYkn11KvA U8jCkbphl5rx6YsOXHcjZSg3jrh/eDFkOEzPshJls5NnwwTQPb6rAElnQhDh1EqdQm 6s8tlYh/tqfUg== In-Reply-To: <878rq2gyoc.fsf@yahoo.com> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.18; envelope-from=goncholden@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4318.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137719 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, June 12th, 2022 at 6:53 PM, Po Lu wrote: > goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com writes: > > > The mantra that things can always be customised implies observance to > > a single formatting scheme. Legacy code does not even subscribe to > > that. They only had simple editors. If I introduce tabs with "C-q > > TAB", all those tabs get removed by emacs as soon as one presses > > return at the end of the line. > > > > Emacs is acting like a dictator. > > > So just turn of electric-indent-mode, right? Because if you don't want > on-the-fly indentation, you shouldn't be using it? Correct. It is much better than the easy dodging of the problem that insis= ts on reformatting the whole codebase so as to adhere with some design spucifi= cation of an editor. Because the attitude of some of the current maintainers is t= hat if I do not like it, choose another editor so we can continue with our way = of doing things.