From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hugh Wolf Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs from CVS question Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:30:06 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070225171 10648 80.91.224.253 (30 Nov 2003 20:46:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 30 21:46:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQYSH-00047a-00 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:46:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AQZO6-0001iH-Fq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:45:54 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!attbi_s51.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Darwin) Original-Lines: 52 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.41.137 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net Original-X-Trace: attbi_s51 1070224206 66.31.41.137 (Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:30:06 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:30:06 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:118822 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:14764 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:14764 On 2003-11-29, Tim McNamara wrote: > 4. The Xaw3d toolbars are missing from my build of 21.3, but are > present in the 21.2 build from fink. My impression was that this > should have been included in the build automagically, but wasn't. If you look at the fink .info file for whatever 21.2 build you're running can see what options were used to build it. Look at the value of ConfigureParameters. For instance emacs21-xaw3d.info in the unstable tree has this: ConfigureParams: --with-x --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-gif \ --infodir='${prefix}/share/info' --mandir='${prefix}/share/man'\ --libexecdir='${prefix}/lib' The only difference between the xaw3d info and the other x11 emacs info is that the latter also includes --without-toolkit-scroll-bars. NB: it's NOT a good idea to build software outside of fink that has dependencies on fink-provided packages like xaw3d (not impossible but not a good idea). If you want to install xaw3d via fink, then you should build your emacs 21.3 with fink. Or, if you really think it's a good idea to install into /usr/local (I don't), handle all the non-standard dependencies that way as well, including xaw3d. Don't mix them. > 5. The Option key works as META in Carbon but not in X11 (I think > that may be a problem with XDarwin or OroborOSX, since the Option > key works as META in Terminal). I haven't used XDarwin.app in a long time now, but this sounds like an .Xmodmap thing. With X11.app my ~/.Xmodmap looks like this: clear mod1 keycode 66 = Meta_L keycode 63 = Mode_switch add mod1 = Meta_L This is with the Pro keyboard. The result is that option/alt is my meta key and command/apple is my alt key in X11. > 6. The Carbon build is HUGE- 95 MB! Can this be slimmed down? Mine is 15.6MB for emacs itself -- less than half the size of the X11 build (36.7MB). Where are you seeing 95MB?