From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: D Herring Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature ofEmacs? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:16:46 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <1578157c-17a0-41ea-9420-9330f68b10fe@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <02a0d2ef-0b00-4038-b559-690516b4ed0a@a21g2000prj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298448135 31623 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2011 08:02:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:02:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 23 09:02:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ps9fi-0006Hz-Qg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:02:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34484 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ps9fh-0002oV-O6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:02:05 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.84.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!feeder.news-service.com!85.214.198.2.MISMATCH!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp Original-Lines: 33 Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="Q7hmocNssIwDEuQbezMefg"; logging-data="19975"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18TJ3kNrYfWiqu6O56RJeBk" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Thunderbird/3.1.7 In-Reply-To: <02a0d2ef-0b00-4038-b559-690516b4ed0a@a21g2000prj.googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:RFjroXpGFRCykLhQk3MrxbvHKx4= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:185222 comp.emacs:101084 comp.lang.lisp:299832 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:79379 Archived-At: On 02/22/2011 09:33 PM, Rafe Kettler wrote: > On Feb 22, 9:06 pm, Cthun wrote: >> On 22/02/2011 2:47 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >>> There seems to be a contradiction between those last two paragraphs. >>> Saving buffers and finding files are relatively rare operations which >>> thus shouldn't be given very easy to press key sequences like C-s and >>> C-o. >> >> Where do you live where software never crashes and the electricity never >> goes out? Most of us learn to save very frequently to limit how much >> we'll have to do over again if the power goes out or whatever. > > Emacs is really, really stable. My computer hasn't crashed in the past > 6 months, either. The power hasn't gone out in 3 months or so here > (eastern US). > > Save and open are relatively infrequent command relative to others > (actual typing, cursor movement, etc.). It's also nice to have a > slightly more complex incantation for save so that you don't save > anything you might not want to (I know you can undo but if you don't > realize what you did you could be in for a problem). Emacs already uses autosave "#file#"s (see auto-save-timeout, auto-save-interval, etc.). You don't have to do manual saves to guard against accidental loss. My main reasons for saving are to make changes visible to other programs (e.g. gitk or a compiler). But this key sequence doesn't slow that down noticeably. Just remember C-x opens the file menu and C-s selects save... - Daniel