From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Bradshaw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to improve the readability of (any) LISP or any highlevel functional language to the level of FORTH ? Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:00:39 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294158252 25387 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2011 16:24:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:24:12 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 17:24:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa9g5-0000Jy-CM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:24:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pa9g4-0002YW-F7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:24:04 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,gnu.emacs.help,comp.lang.functional Original-Lines: 19 Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="DTY4OZDvq+z4BRM3RuqM2A"; logging-data="13938"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19A9UxwedNP/E78vf/m1cB4" User-Agent: Unison/2.1.3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:meaBN1xkC1B5LstM5elioabJmcA= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu comp.lang.lisp:297234 gnu.emacs.help:183954 comp.lang.functional:69103 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:19:42 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:78177 Archived-At: On 2011-01-04 08:02:35 +0000, Tim Harig said: > LISP users on the other hand, never seem to be able to let > go of LISP when the situation requires it. I think this probably is not the case. It may be the case that the Lisp users *you hear from* often have this view, but I don't think those people are necessarily very representative of Lisp users as a whole. Of course I can't really infer much about the ones you don't hear from other than in a sort of dark-energy way - implementors are probably the only people who might have a chance of knowing about them in any reliable way. For instance, I've been berated by the users you hear from for saying I write (and like writing) Perl and (but not like very much) Java. I don't think that makes me an atypical Lisp user, I just think it makes me one of the few who are in the subset of Lisp users that you hear from and who will admit to using other langages.