From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Spencer Baugh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing site-lisp without installing it Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 14:46:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <838raszqfw.fsf@gnu.org> <83wmycw1pi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35318"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:GktNmt3YXsTgCqc7rL7n1LF0WfY= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 03 20:47:03 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRdLi-0008tv-BI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 20:47:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRdKx-0006pI-N4; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 14:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRdKw-0006nw-Rt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 14:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRdKv-0007l2-5A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 14:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRdKs-0007pt-UL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 20:46:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:144575 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Spencer Baugh >> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 11:58:14 -0400 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > I use site-lisp, if by that you mean the site-lisp directory that is >> > put on load-path. >> >> The system-wide one in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp? > > Yes. > >> Don't you need root to change that one? Isn't that inconvenient? > > On my systems, I have the root privileges, so this isn't inconvenient. > Why don't you on your systems? I understand that you are the de-facto > administrator, since you set up things for your users? I do, yes. > Anyway, what's inconvenient in using the system-wide site-lisp? If > access rights is the issue, Tramp should solve that cleanly, I think. It just seems less convenient to have to use TRAMP to edit the files. Doing everything in ~/.emacs.d avoids the access rights issue; it's not shared, but that's fine since there's only one user in your case (I assume?). For my personal configuration on my personal machines, I generally try to configure things in ~ as much as possible, since all system-wide configuration has the hassle of access rights. Thanks for sharing your workflow though, it's interesting to hear that site-lisp works well for this. Do you install packages into site-lisp, too? Or, what in general do you put in site-lisp? Do you use site-start.el? default.el? I definitely hope to use those, too.