From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Espen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Excessive questions about "file changed on disk" in tramp ftp Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 12:28:36 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367513389 25836 80.91.229.3 (2 May 2013 16:49:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 16:49:49 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 02 18:49:49 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UXwhY-0003j0-Ul for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 18:49:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42712 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXwhY-0002hb-Dv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 12:49:48 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx05.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 42 Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b8816fa7300cd668c1c8ea38fc847e8a"; logging-data="22679"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/MIdUTKt391v5+t8+/slewJTUilZ4HKtY=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dUTUVJQ08wuK9q7//tVlyfsv9uQ= sha1:bNVojycyLz+z2GBEeatyHUW5ubU= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:198188 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 May 2013 12:49:39 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90454 Archived-At: XeCycle writes: > Dan Espen writes: > >> XeCycle writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm using TRAMP to edit files on a ftp server. On saving the >>> file Emacs usually asks me "file changed on disk. really save?" >>> But I'm the only one editing that file, of which I can be sure. >>> By "usually" I mean almost every time. >>> >>> Something must be wrong here. Where shall I start with >>> debugging? >> >> Check the time on both systems. >> >> They both should be running NTP and have the exact same time. > > I'm unable to verify the time on the remote machine. I have only > FTP access to that. However, time reported in dired is correct, > always earlier than current time. How is "earlier than the current time" correct? Sounds like someone's time isn't right. > Or, can I simply turn off this checking for remote files? Or for > this server? Don't know, just know that I've seen the issue and the problem occurred because NTP had died and was not restarted. At the same time "make" was pretty confused about what needed to be built and what didn't. Make sure your local system has the correct time, then contact the admin on the FTP server and get him to correct his time. -- Dan Espen