From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:55:09 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <icsj29f45u.fsf@home.home> References: <CACeWA3iaQXuz6uv7ejA2O8Z0CLS2VfTbEBtMmEhAxyLi3EtwRg@mail.gmail.com> <CAAuthdRKjbaMnoNUgqA-o0n2Y-AN3ZO-rgq5ymVBy0Gb4gM-eQ@mail.gmail.com> <87li82icgp.fsf@nowhere.org> <alpine.DEB.2.02.1304282326100.3673@james-System-Product-Name> <871u9t7te9.fsf@nowhere.org> <mailman.24838.1367252519.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367275928 1212 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2013 22:52:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:52:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 30 00:52:09 2013 Return-path: <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1UWwvX-00045K-T2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 00:52:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56255 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1UWwvX-0006f3-Jg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:52:07 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx05.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 49 Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b8816fa7300cd668c1c8ea38fc847e8a"; logging-data="17098"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX181Bg/HUrIyDeMBaUrhTi3Y9E0VxT7qhiM=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:A247CDPtZGIrZPwV9y6otiICvY0= sha1:HXOiMIS+zqdSBi5Ys3kKlaJosTI= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:198144 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:51:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90411 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/90411> Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes: > glyn.millington@gmail.com writes: > >> I suspect that one reason for sticking with Xemacs now is lots of little >> customizations and tweaks which don't easily transfer to Gnu Emacs - the >> same reason why I wouldn't willingly swap my init.el for yours, because >> it would change the way I work. > > I changed the subject -- maybe this thread is an opportunity to get a > list of XEmacs features that would be nice to have in GNU Emacs. I'm > not thinking of architectural differences, rather of small convenient > commands or options. List of things I miss from XEmacs: 1. 3d effect for mode line 2. Easy customization for sounds: (setq sound-alist nil) (let ((default-directory (concat data-directory "sounds"))) (load-sound-file "slap.au" 'slap 50) ;new (load-sound-file "drum-beep.au" 'drum) (load-sound-file "quiet-beep.au" 'quiet) (load-sound-file "bass-snap.au" 'bass 75) ;was 80 (load-sound-file "whip.au" 'whip 50) ;was 70 (load-sound-file "hammer.au" 'hammer 50) ;new (load-sound-file "yeep.au" 'yeep 50) ;was 100 (load-sound-file "drip.au" 'drip 50) ;new (load-sound-file "ding.au" 'paren 50)) ;new (setq sound-alist (append '((default :sound hammer) ;was bass (undefined-key :sound drum) (undefined-click :sound drum) (command-error :sound bass) (no-completion :sound drip) ;was whip (y-or-n-p :sound slap) ;was quiet (yes-or-no-p :sound yeep) ;was quiet (isearch-failed :sound drum :volume 70) ;was quiet (isearch-quit :sound yeep) ;was quiet (auto-save-error :sound whip :volume 75)) ;was vol 100 sound-alist))) For me not even close to a reason to stay with XEmacs. -- Dan Espen