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From: Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: custom-themes BAD?
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 13:06:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <icios3cbj9.fsf@home.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.16024.1393350344.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > All the packages should be using font-lock-* faces as far as
>> > possible.  Then the themes can all set the same set of faces
>> > much more easily.
>> 
>> Better yet, packages should define their own faces but use the :inherit
>> property to derive them from Emacs' standard faces. That way, users can
>> customize faces in some mode/package and use the default ones in others,
>> if they prefer.
>
> Exactly.  And it's not just "better *yet*", as if the first
> suggestion itself represented some improvement but not the
> best improvement.  The first approach is generally misguided, IMO.
>
> It is simply not the case that "all packages should be using
> font-lock-* faces as far as possible."  That is bad advice, IMO.
> Package designers should use their heads, keeping the package users
> foremost in mind.
>
> I also wonder about this part:
>
>> > Then the themes can all set the same set of faces much more
>> > easily.
>
> Why should I care how easy it is for "themes to set" the same
> set of faces?  What I care about is how easy it is for users
> to customize a set of faces.  And for users of themes to control
> them.
>
> Now if it is the case that custom themes are "BAD", in that there
> is no easy way to customize a set of faces across multiple
> themes, then that would be something missing in the design of
> custom themes.  That would not surprise me, but I'm no expert on
> custom themes.

Just looking at the discrepancy between manoj-dark and the other
themes should make the problem clear.

-- 
Dan Espen


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-25 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-25 17:08 custom-themes BAD? Dan Espen
2014-02-25 17:22 ` Joost Kremers
2014-02-25 17:38   ` E Sabof
2014-02-25 17:54   ` Dan Espen
     [not found]   ` <mailman.16024.1393350344.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-02-25 18:06     ` Dan Espen [this message]
2014-02-25 17:35 ` Drew Adams
     [not found] ` <mailman.16021.1393349758.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-02-25 18:03   ` Dan Espen
2014-02-25 19:33     ` Rainer M Krug
     [not found]     ` <mailman.16038.1393356841.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-02-25 19:48       ` Dan Espen
2014-02-25 20:04         ` Rainer M Krug
2014-02-25 21:05           ` W. Greenhouse
2014-02-25 22:19             ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<ic1tyrdsrh.fsf@home.home>
     [not found] ` <<slrnlgpkad.3j2.joost.m.kremers@j.kremers4.news.arnhem.chello.nl>
2014-02-25 17:45   ` Drew Adams

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