From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Espen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing the language of gnus menu entries Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:22:37 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <87eh8eekza.fsf@web.de> <874n9amatr.fsf@web.de> <87vc1p9ggs.fsf@web.de> <837ge4hpco.fsf@gnu.org> <87li2k92l8.fsf@web.de> <8338oshfy5.fsf@gnu.org> <45370BAD-3E8A-40A9-835B-C269787D29E3@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380216325 18395 80.91.229.3 (26 Sep 2013 17:25:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:25:25 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 26 19:25:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VPFJW-0006nu-PH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 19:25:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59118 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPFJW-0006ri-Bg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:25:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 35 Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="5d070289bfddab8debea427f21ca33d2"; logging-data="26130"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19teiErMIiC+DwUirmb3Oe18D6GrfJBLW8=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LVSXjZ0a7Ff3seHJLO52+YAarNw= sha1:uw+7u+HNxYYPaOaP0heOVBEQrpc= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201354 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93623 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> >> Well, the translation sucks. :-) Word order is so messed up that it's >> >> often difficult to make heads or tails of a sentence... >> > >> > Often, or sometimes? Difficult, perhaps, but not always impossible, >> > unlike the case for someone who does not understand the source language. >> >> Well, *I* would not have been able to understand enough to learn Emacs >> basics from it. > > Even if your only alternative were in a language you could not read at all? > Thai? > > I'm guessing you're thinking that your alternative is reading English, which > you happen to understand well. Put yourself in the place of someone who > does not know English well. That's the use case this is for. I think sooner or later we, as humans, need to shed this multiple language ball and chain we have tied around our necks. But that's just my opinion. Using Emacs to achieve this goal isn't my objective. I did notice this: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TextTranslator Which allows for an Emacs user to get pretty easy access to machine translation, (which might get better over time). So, despite not being automatic, there is an existing interface to translation. Sorry, not following this thread closely. If this was already mentioned, check with Emily Litella. -- Dan Espen