From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Daum Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Umlaute: self-insert-command ("o) vs. Meta-v Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:49:54 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1245599437 11874 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2009 15:50:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:50:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 21 17:50:34 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MIPJQ-0001B4-NB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:50:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45968 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MIPJQ-0000Ct-1R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:50:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MIPJ6-0000CP-7s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:50:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MIPJ0-00009o-TF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56917 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MIPJ0-00009f-N9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:50:06 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:42459 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MIPJ0-0005bP-7M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:50:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MIPIy-0001HB-GJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:50:04 +0000 Original-Received: from p57a0cd8c.dip.t-dialin.net ([87.160.205.140]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:50:04 +0000 Original-Received: from gator_ml by p57a0cd8c.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:50:04 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57a0cd8c.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65415 Archived-At: Hi, ... it looks, like after decades of 8-bit charsets, there still is room for lots of confusion. I am just struggling with a weird problem, that is driving me crazy: - I am sitting on a (Gnu/Linux/Debian) machine running X11 with (mostly) German keyboard - on which I have an "xterm" - in which over an SSH session there is "screen" running on a remote host - in that screen session, there are 30 terminal sessions on other hosts I can't discover any significant differences in terminal or other relevant settings on the remote machines. In shell sessions and other programs, they all behave alike (i.e. when I press for example the "o key, it is displayed), so it must be an emacs issue (even though the emacs configuration also should be mostly the same on those machines and at least I can't find a significant difference): On some hosts, when I press "o, emacs sees the corresponding char and does whatever that key is bound to (normally "self-insert-command") while on other machines the same single key press is seen by emacs as Meta-v. I have been using emacs for 20 years, but all my past experience won't help because the input handling just changed too much during the last years. Does anybody have an idea, what exactly is going on here? Any help is appreciated! Regards, Peter Daum