From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs's popularity Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:41:04 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <2103fd36-c5cd-4e8d-a74f-34697a369934@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <87skop8cc7.fsf@iki.fi> <20081215210907.GB3848@groll.co.za> <87ljuh86il.fsf@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229427671 12681 80.91.229.12 (16 Dec 2008 11:41:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:41:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 16 12:42:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LCYJb-00066R-S3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:42:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50733 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCYIP-0002gy-Qe for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:41:01 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!usenet238.motzarella.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 52 Original-X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX182BGEjbbv7/FgsMmJlspaWToiLQjlVyoXsu/bbLiXZ2bnAATgwT0v7Otyrr7H371oOfplTBmQ3WRiEQ/8WcoH49L+HlhUerNkHQWgm1ub2md2EnDdapyHlAO1gPKgCYAvQ8gvJYc1ihA== Original-X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:42:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+ThEhnzZIxwXvllQy/ue5eNo/Uh/qF21ReN3Q8/D7qfQ== Cancel-Lock: sha1:vTT9Ko+tDux2ypCAkb13UWVrCnY= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:165347 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60678 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman" writes: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:01 AM, Richard Riley wrote: >>> course if you know about Emacs client/server that is not a problem in >>> most cases (though someone gave an example with su that would not work >>> in this case). >> >> A strange set up IMO. I'm still not sure why emacs can not be configured >> to check for a daemon/server. Having to use emacsclient to connect seems >> rather long winded but I'm sure there is a good reason for it. > > Emacs client starts very quickly. I think you misunderstand what I meant : I agree with you, as I specifically stated in the previous post ,---- | It does. And if you use emacs -daemon and emacsclient -c almost | immediately :-; `---- What I meant by "check for a daemon/server" is that when you press your normal emacs icon, or type "emacs" it has to be doctored to connect to the daemon and to start one if one is not already running. It would seem (to me at any rate) that the the base could be configured to have "emacs" start as a client if a server is running. If not, start emacs and start a server. Possibly you can help me with one small issue I have with the server setup: I find the EDITOR/ALTERNATE_EDITOR method ok generally where my emacs alias is "emacsclient -c". This opens a new frame. But how to open a *new* buffer in an emacs without using a new frame or even just bring emacs to the foreground by jumping to the current buffer window? One can not just run "emacsclient" from the command line or an icon. It says file name or argument required. And I dont want a new frame all the time especially since I started using XMonad which is a tiled Window Manager. "emacsclient filename" works fine of course. Ideally I would like the "emacsclient -c" functionality but without it creating a new frame - rather a scratct buffer in the existing frame. > >> Sounds nice. Which model? I'm looking for one too. But it'll be a Linux >> one for sure. > > We are not supposed to mention specific brands here. (Ask me privately > if you want to.)I am however going to buy one of those with a large I need to drop you some lines soon about nxhtml issues so will so :-; > keyboard. Currently the largest keyboards on netbooks are about 90% of > the full keyboard.