From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: shell-command, its relatives, and aliases Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:22:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226669031 1273 80.91.229.12 (14 Nov 2008 13:23:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:23:51 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 14 14:24:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L0yfH-0008F0-DV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:24:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36626 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L0ye8-0000tv-WB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:23:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L0ydq-0000tW-5Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:23:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L0ydn-0000pl-J6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:23:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46805 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L0ydn-0000pi-Dt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:23:15 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:45993 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L0ydn-0006MJ-GR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:23:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L0ydf-000689-PT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:23:07 +0000 Original-Received: from c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.161.145.183]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:23:07 +0000 Original-Received: from kevin.d.rodgers by c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:23:07 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59778 Archived-At: Bill Rising wrote: > > I would like to use aliases in (shell-command ...) or (call-process > region ...). Even if I tell the latter to behave as a login shell, and > make sure that the aliases are available to the login shell, I cannot > get them to execute. > > The shell can see the aliases without any problem, because I can send > the -alias- command and get the list of aliases. > > It seems to me that elisp is trying to see if the command is defined > before running it, instead of simply letting the shell chew on whatever > was sent to it. This could be a grave misconception. > > In any case, is there are way to be able to use aliases within any of > the 'execute this line/region without starting a buffer with a shell' > commands? call-process-region does not invoke the shell at all. If you want to use any shell features (e.g. redirection, aliases) you need to use shell-command-on-region. There are several ways to make aliases available in the shell invoked by Emacs. I would just explicitly read the shell definitions e.g. M-| . ~/my_aliases.bash && alias_1 arg_1 Or you could create the ~/.emacs_bash file and read the shell definitions there (automatically) -- see the Interactive Shell node of the Emacs manual. -- Kevin Rodgers Denver, Colorado, USA