From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-w3m question Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:51:19 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <87vdvdu4mp.fsf@literaturlatenight.de> <74160b46-e541-436a-a776-c8bd53d6cd55@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <200810302125.m9ULP2AB006684@zogzog.maillard.mobi> <87bpx1g23o.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225557658 27330 80.91.229.12 (1 Nov 2008 16:40:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:40:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 01 17:42:00 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KwJXs-0005Qc-5X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:41:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60856 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwJWl-00032f-HM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:40:43 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news.eternal-september.org!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX1+Y0+lDNU0jIMHYbV4X1BrJ21DDVHEYc0INegpzCBmLD19bo7gxeR1f3NYHBnWX1Jc9zBVLdLvKSKyUkZSMzWZA/UNIhadKzeza2MzxLh2k/pBK3+qOV2HWKu2iwSNSl0jAtT297yGR9Q== Original-X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:51:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1948nVJcUdtK3mnFfzVU4In/OTEwo4fEKGsbsE7egSUng== Cancel-Lock: sha1:n6sGxuOrmG/s5w+sW6p/IMwHYPw= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:163996 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59338 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > Xavier> For your information, many old computers do not have > Xavier> Up/Down/Left/Right keys thus making this as a default won't work > Xavier> for them. I never use these key due to my habits. Therefor > Xavier> I strongly disagree with you on that point. > > Defaults are for newcomers to quickly get hands on the thing. > > I do not see why defaults should apply to newcomers, really. > Defaults must apply to the mass (either power users or newcomers). > > Xavier The mass have arrow keys. As do 99.99999999999999999% of all new comers. -- important and urgent problems of the technology of today are no longer the satisfactions of the primary needs or of archetypal wishes, but the reparation of the evils and damages by the technology of yesterday. ~Dennis Gabor, Innovations: Scientific, Technological and Social, 1970