From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christian Herenz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Octave Help Mode? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:40:52 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208299279 14062 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2008 22:41:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:41:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 16 00:41:36 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jltq4-0007qN-L5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:41:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JltpQ-00082x-6M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:40:40 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!feeder.news-service.com!feeder.news-service.com!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 54 Original-X-Trace: feeder.motzarella.org U2FsdGVkX18ag0SJrgJkPyZAla+mwMwS+ZWv5u7Qd0FwBdv8oTJ0B5F/ur8Ap2fr129VGWbpz1owKpfdf0G6oV8qjRI/xkMkXvxpN+Amsr0/3DSpnX4BTQBfCyJcr2jtlTGZiL6Tg1zvq1ZnXssqDA== Original-X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:41:03 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+xOJyxUwhXs73iRHICDfM3nFzACkSPVM0= Cancel-Lock: sha1:j8CMZeTrUYMP1qPQzXMMd6zjOJ4= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 SUSE/1.1.7-3.4 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:157951 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:53316 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman (gmail) schrieb: >>> That is a nice idea, but would not solve my problem that I was >>> actually forced to hand in the results with matlab, otherwise I was >>> told today by a professor my results would not be accepted. But I am >>> working on this issue right now, cause my course is called >>> "Computational Physics" not "Computational Physics with Matlab". >>> >> >> Why on earth do you feel that your Professor should master every >> application out there that a student might feel is his right to use? Did >> it cross your mind that he does not have the skill in Octave that you >> have? Afaik Computational Physics should not be about programming in a specific langauge. There are only some subtle diffrences in syntax and some commands may be better (faster) implemented in matlab. I would understand if he is a FORTRAN guy and I want to write in C, but some Mathlab Scripts do run well in Octave an vice versa. > > Christian, I agree with Richard. Most professors I have seen are human > beeing with adequate limitations in their capabilities. > > But you do not have to give up on using Octave for that. Can't you for > example talk to your fellow students to see if you as a group can ask > the institution about the possibility to use Octave instead of Mathlab? Sometimes also fellow students can be limited in ther human capabilities (not all, of course). I even think some of mine even don't exactly know about the difference between "free" software and pirated software :( (The understanding about the meaning of free software in general needs to be stronger communicated to general public I think, but this is really OT) However, a small group is supporting me. I also have to talk to some of the people who help the professor in correcting the homework. Additionally I work togehter with a friend of mine, who is in favour of Matlab, but feels exactly like I do about "the need" to do the exercises in Matlab, so in case that there are differences between matlab and octave we can point these out. > Then some professor might get time to learn Octave enough. Hopefully he is willing to do so... > > To convince them you might have to learn some Matchlab and Scilab too Thats actually my plan atm :-) > ... ;-) Greets, Christian