C-h sends backspace?

C-h sends backspace?

[Christian Herenz]

Hi,
I am using an emacsen (Zile) on a remote machine. The problem is, that 
the C-h key (not only in Zile, also in other apps) sends backspace to 
the remote machine. I only find information for the case, that when I 
press "backspace" the Help pops up, cause Backspace sends C-h. What can 
I do, Is it possible somehow to have C-h still as C-h and Backspace 
still as backspace?
Greetz,
Christian

Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 13.03.2008 um 16:22 schrieb Christian Herenz:

> I am using an emacsen (Zile) on a remote machine. The problem is,  
> that the C-h key (not only in Zile, also in other apps) sends  
> backspace to the remote machine. I only find information for the  
> case, that when I press "backspace" the Help pops up, cause  
> Backspace sends C-h. What can I do, Is it possible somehow to have  
> C-h still as C-h and Backspace still as backspace?


stty erase ^?

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Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Christian Herenz]

Peter Dyballa schrieb:

> 
> stty erase ^?
> 

This does not work :(

Still C-h sends backspace...

Greets,
Christian

Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Uday S Reddy]

Doing Google search for "emacs backspace" brings up a load of web pages, 
especially this very useful page:
    http://kb.iu.edu/data/abvn.html

Cheers,
Uday Reddy

"Christian Herenz" <herenz@physik.hu-berlin.de> wrote in message 
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> Hi,
> I am using an emacsen (Zile) on a remote machine. The problem is, that 
> the C-h key (not only in Zile, also in other apps) sends backspace to 
> the remote machine. I only find information for the case, that when I 
> press "backspace" the Help pops up, cause Backspace sends C-h. What 
> can I do, Is it possible somehow to have C-h still as C-h and 
> Backspace still as backspace?
> Greetz,
> Christian 

Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Christian Herenz]

Uday S Reddy schrieb:
> Doing Google search for "emacs backspace" brings up a load of web pages, 
> especially this very useful page:
>    http://kb.iu.edu/data/abvn.html

The title of this packge is, Emacs - Bacspace sends Help. My Problem is 
Help sends Backspace... Wenn I press C-h the last typed character is 
deleted. Thats why I ask in this group, because the load of webpages a 
google search brings up are not exactly my problem.

However, the last solution, remapping the keys to C-x h, would work. But 
I would like to have C-h as help and backspace  as backspace. Is that 
possible?

Greets,
Christian

Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 18.03.2008 um 12:12 schrieb Christian Herenz:

> My Problem is Help sends Backspace


If you're working with GNU Emacs in a terminal emulation, i.e. GNU  
Emacs is not running as an X client, the you should teach your  
terminal emulation not to interpret C-h as backspace.

GNU Emacs sends \010 to the terminal. The terminal now can choose to  
interpret this as a backspace character or as somethings it must not  
care.

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Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Christian Herenz]

Peter Dyballa schrieb:

> If you're working with GNU Emacs in a terminal emulation, i.e. GNU Emacs 
> is not running as an X client, the you should teach your terminal 
> emulation not to interpret C-h as backspace.

As mentioned before, I am working with zile, an emacs like editor... 
However, should make no difference?

> 
> GNU Emacs sends \010 to the terminal. The terminal now can choose to 
> interpret this as a backspace character or as somethings it must not care.
> 

I do not understand this part? Gnu Emacs sends something to the terminal??

Greets,
Christian

Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 18.03.2008 um 14:37 schrieb Christian Herenz:

> I do not understand this part? Gnu Emacs sends something to the  
> terminal??


You can substitute with zile.

Wouldn't you like to tell what this zile is? Is it an X client or is  
it a command line programme?

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Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Christian Herenz]

Peter Dyballa schrieb:

>> I do not understand this part? Gnu Emacs sends something to the 
>> terminal??
> 
> 
> You can substitute with zile.
> 
> Wouldn't you like to tell what this zile is? Is it an X client or is it 
> a command line programme?
> 

http://zile.sourceforge.net/ small emacs like editor (not X, Terminal, I 
am working on a remote login, local installation works fine in the same 
terminal emulator).
> 
> GNU Emacs sends \010 to the terminal. The terminal now can choose to interpret this as a backspace character or as somethings it must not care. 


What sends it to the terminal??

Greets,
Christian

Re: C-h sends backspace?

[Uday S Reddy]

"Christian Herenz" <herenz@physik.hu-berlin.de> wrote in message 
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>>    http://kb.iu.edu/data/abvn.html
>
> The title of this packge is, Emacs - Bacspace sends Help. My Problem 
> is Help sends Backspace...

No, I don't think you understood what the page says.  "The Backspace key 
(on most keyboards) generates ASCII code 8. C-h sends the same code" 
So, whether you say Backspace sends C-h or C-h sends Backspace, you are 
saying the same thing.

This group can only answer questions about Emacs.

> However, the last solution, remapping the keys to C-x h, would work. 
> But I would like to have C-h as help and backspace  as backspace. Is 
> that possible?

Whether it is possible or not is a question for your keyboard and 
terminal emulator you might be using.  The web page gave instructions 
for Unix terminal emulators to make Backspace send C-?.  Whether it 
works for your terminal emulator or what else works for it, is open. 
You may not get an answer to that question in this forum.

Cheers,
Uday Reddy