From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Samuel Banya" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: DragonFlyBSD Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 21:53:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfsecw2c.fsf@zoho.eu> <87r17wydgk.fsf@zoho.eu> <87fso537cc.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17233"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-4778-g14fba9972e-fm-20220217.001-g14fba997 To: "Emanuel Berg" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 27 03:55:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nO9iG-0004Ju-Ao for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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On Sat, Feb 26, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > Jean Louis wrote: > > >>> What I like is system consistency, like what Debian has, > >>> that one can upgrade the system over and over again > >>> without reboot, and all things work. Uptime like 536 days > >>> or 966 days is what I have now on some computers > >>> with Debian. > >> > >> Yeah I've used Debian for a long time, I like it a lot but > >> don't say necessarily it is better than other distros. > > > > For me, I look from freedom viewpoint, I cannot recommend > > Debian as it will recommend non-free software to fellows. > > So I exclude non-free and use those FSF fully free > > distributions, sometimes self-made distribution for myself > > only. It's not that hard to build it yourself. > > You can do that on Debian by excluding the non-free part from > the sources.list line(s) - never heard of anyone actually > doing that tho ... > > >> In particular, I think the package manager system and whole > >> idea installing stuff explicitely from the command line > >> should be replaced by a declarative system. It would have > >> rollback features and all, but that's not the most > >> important thing, the most important thing would be to have > >> the system configurable and setup with precision and ease > >> in text files like you do everything else in computing ... > > > > I don't like text files > > ? > > > I expect system to be very adjustable through user friendly > > menus > > ?? > > > And on GUI I would be doing it with mouse > > ??? > > > In fact I expect in 21st century that computer knows me > > enough, so that I do not need to adjust anything > > ???? > > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal > > >