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From: "Christian Schröder" <chschroe@math.uni-goettingen.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Charset problem
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:41:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fcdvh5$btp$03$1@news.t-online.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.846.1189756022.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I think this is your problem, right there: on a Posix locale, Emacs
> disables all its automagic for non-ASCII characters, and expects you
> to tell it explicitly what to do, which is a pain.
> 
> Can you set up an ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-10 locale?  If not, why not?
> I'd expect that users in Germany use a German locale.

As far as I know I have to set the "LANG" or "LC_CTYPE" environment 
variable, or is there any other way to change the locale?
After setting LANG to "de_DE" (-> export LANG=de_DE) the output of 
"locale" is as follows:

LANG=de_DE
LC_CTYPE="de_DE"
LC_NUMERIC="de_DE"
LC_TIME="de_DE"
LC_COLLATE="de_DE"
LC_MONETARY="de_DE"
LC_MESSAGES="de_DE"
LC_PAPER="de_DE"
LC_NAME="de_DE"
LC_ADDRESS="de_DE"
LC_TELEPHONE="de_DE"
LC_MEASUREMENT="de_DE"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="de_DE"
LC_ALL=

The locale "de_DE.ISO8859-15" (as Peter suggested) doesn't seem to be 
available on my system. At least it is not in the list that "locale -a" 
prints and no directory of this name exists under /usr/lib/locale.

When I now start Emacs and load the file I still see the question marks. 
The mode line is the same as before. The output of "C-u C-x =" has 
changed slightly:

     character: ? (0374, 252, 0xfc)
       charset: eight-bit-graphic (8-bit graphic char (0xA0..0xFF))
    code point: 252
        syntax: word
      category:
   buffer code: 0xFC
     file code: 0xFC (encoded by coding system raw-text-unix)
terminal code: not encodable

The output of "C-h C" is now:

Coding system for saving this buffer:
   t -- raw-text-unix
Default coding system (for new files):
   1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
Coding system for keyboard input:
   1 -- iso-8859-1 (alias of iso-latin-1)
Coding system for terminal output:
   1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
Defaults for subprocess I/O:
   decoding: 1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
   encoding: 1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)

This is really different from before (with POSIX locale), but it did not 
solve my problem. :(

> Try "M-x set-language-environment RET Latin-1 RET".  Does this help?

Doesn't change anything, no matter of the locale I use.

Do you have any other ideas?

Regards,
	Christian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-14 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-12 23:05 Charset problem Christian Schröder
2007-09-13  7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <mailman.791.1189668733.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-13 21:50   ` Christian Schröder
2007-09-14  7:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-14  8:58     ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]     ` <mailman.846.1189756022.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-14 12:41       ` Christian Schröder [this message]
2007-09-14 13:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <mailman.869.1189778341.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-14 15:06           ` Christian Schröder
2007-09-14 16:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <mailman.875.1189785660.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-15 15:03               ` Christian Schröder
2007-09-15 15:59                 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-15 18:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.902.1189871990.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-17 11:11                   ` Christian Schröder
2007-09-17 12:33                     ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-15  3:43         ` Tim X
2007-09-16  0:21         ` Giorgos Keramidas

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