From: Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "like other editors" [
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:01:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fawrcmjc80.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20111003154119.37845657@kuru.homelinux.net
Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi Ken,
>
> On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:18:11 -0400
> ken <gebser@mousecar.com> wrote:
>
>> Secondly, there are places in the world where people haven't ever
>> used Windows; instead, their first and only experience with computers
>> is with Linux. What sense can it make to them that emacs' behavior
>> is changed simply to mimic some other editor they've never seen or
>> used?
>
> You wrongly assumed by modern editors I was talking about Windows
> editors[1], you can check out other FOSS editors (in fact they are
> pretty good for relatively simple use) like Geany, Kate, Gedit, Nedit
> (this is actually pretty old), text input windows of most file/web
> browsers, many GUI email clients and so on. And most of the friends I
> was trying to introduce to org-mode were *nix users already (yes there
> are non-techie people using *nix, and yes they made the decision
> without any "friendly help" guiding them in that direction).
>
> No need to start a(n) argument/flame-war here, RMS asked users' opinion
> and I expressed myself. Don't get me wrong, I love Emacs and I couldn't
> manage to work without it. But the first day experience in Emacs is
> definitely one of my worst. My opinion was based on that experience.
I agree with you. How it became a Linux v Windows and Word v Emacs fight
I'm not quite sure.
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2011-09-30 3:42 ` Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete Richard Stallman
2011-09-30 8:56 ` Memnon Anon
2011-09-30 11:36 ` Jai Dayal
2011-09-30 15:17 ` Joel James Adamson
2011-10-01 12:54 ` Le Wang
2011-10-03 15:25 ` Joel James Adamson
2011-10-03 5:57 ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-03 9:21 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-10-03 15:14 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03 20:57 ` Martyn Jago
2011-10-03 17:18 ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-03 18:53 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-10-03 7:33 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-10-03 13:18 ` "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] ken
2011-10-03 13:24 ` Jai Dayal
2011-10-03 14:47 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03 13:41 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-10-03 15:17 ` ken
2011-10-03 16:02 ` "like other editors" [ Richard Riley
2011-10-03 20:39 ` ken
2011-10-03 15:35 ` "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03 16:01 ` Richard Riley [this message]
2011-10-03 16:00 ` "like other editors" [ Richard Riley
2011-10-03 17:45 ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-03 19:27 ` Rasmus
2011-10-03 21:30 ` ken
2011-10-03 16:22 ` "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04 12:37 ` ken
2011-10-04 22:09 ` S Boucher
2011-10-04 12:44 ` ken
2011-10-04 18:40 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04 20:02 ` ken
2011-10-04 20:19 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04 21:42 ` ken
2011-10-04 21:54 ` Jai Dayal
2011-10-05 0:35 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2011-10-04 1:54 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.5071.1317713524.939.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-10-04 13:12 ` rusi
2011-10-04 17:27 ` S Boucher
2011-10-05 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-05 16:02 ` Rustom Mody
2011-10-05 17:26 ` MBR
2011-10-05 17:51 ` S Boucher
2011-10-04 4:28 ` Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete MBR
2011-10-04 7:33 ` suvayu ali
2011-10-04 14:08 ` MBR
2011-10-04 14:40 ` suvayu ali
2011-10-04 11:39 ` Marko Vojinovic
2011-10-04 13:31 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-04 11:47 ` Jonathan Groll
2011-10-04 13:33 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-04 16:17 ` Ian Zimmerman
2011-10-04 16:36 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-04 17:38 ` S Boucher
2011-10-04 18:29 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-10-04 19:16 ` S Boucher
2011-10-04 19:11 ` Johnny
2011-10-05 1:04 ` Ludwig, Mark
2011-10-06 12:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-10-06 19:15 ` Ken Goldman
2011-10-06 19:52 ` Marko Vojinovic
2011-10-18 8:09 ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-13 4:24 ` semperos
2011-10-05 3:46 "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete], Rustom Mody
2011-10-05 4:04 ` "like other editors" Ian Zimmerman
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2011-10-12 8:04 ""like other editors" [" Rustom Mody
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