From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:11:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111183924 324 80.91.229.2 (18 Mar 2005 22:12:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 18 23:12:04 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCPgs-0002x6-Ng for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:11:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCPxR-0005aJ-V7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:28:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCPwi-0005Ol-5o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:27:56 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCPwe-0005Mu-LY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:27:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCPwe-0005MA-8l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:27:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.224] (helo=smtp06.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DCPgV-0003YA-Sx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:11:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [84.245.189.54] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.104 #268) id 1DCPgS-0005HI-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:11:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: Original-To: help-gnu-emacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24928 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24928 Am 18.03.2005 um 22:12 schrieb PT: > This would include for example keybindings which are familiar for new > users: > > F1 for help, F2 for save file, F3 for load file, etc. F1 for help is a standard in the MS world that infiltrates the free world too -- that's OK! The others might have existed in some DOS editor ... GNU Emacs has a few newbie modes: its emulations of other editors, probably known to the new user. Then some days spent in C-h t ... And there are simple Emacs clones: nano, pico, the command or text editing modes in bash or Mac OS X ... -- Greetings Pete "Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?" - Tom Stoppard