From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Inputting UTF8 in Emacs Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:16:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8734w278qe.fsf@gmx.net> <837clemfke.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1dukwcg.fsf@gnu.org> <83msuakpqp.fsf@gnu.org> <83le9ukn5r.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36906"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 16 21:18:03 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rEb6p-0009RS-7M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 21:18:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEb68-000335-WC; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 15:17:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEb67-00032t-6W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 15:17:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4027.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.27]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rEb62-0001hq-Uk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 15:17:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1702757829; x=1703017029; bh=vws6xbrUzenk+aZjVJgVNKcS28goetCUOp+1j2HKEqU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=OFnbQ20jFarfpxHtEPsdw5ztDqjtzEOFFh9P/+IR59UcQ+MJ+EMCMHeTRYJAksIdM f2ijvs82f4Kge0tb+vVgq+3NczpCvn1Q4esH3Bh4PRjmgKHLL5z6qtUitD+vcCBrWE iXXHJeBkf0dDjrq/GDEWZZ6eYlOcNsIhc7RZff6X77tYkOcA4cgJ1cu5xTza2uKGQB kbv/bWXWmuLbvKyvj9Gzm/FtiTyDhJpsT89sBkN6JXarirqqy+ykpu1ZxiD/nhDmuX RAD4Of067/XOUgfWrK8YU+q40IIeLZmsXyQd9RIMxdNMPPmoVD80EklgthRO9yS62n hnmVZg2ShGyDQ== In-Reply-To: <83le9ukn5r.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.27; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4027.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145653 Archived-At: On Sunday, December 17th, 2023 at 6:38 AM, Eli Zaretskii wro= te: > > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:06:16 +0000 > > From: uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > >=20 > > > We could have anything, but someone will have to write the code, and > > > we will then need to decide that the addition is important enough to > > > have it bundled with Emacs (as opposed to having a separate package > > > that interested users will need to install). AFAIR, currently Emacs > > > doesn't even know the names of the blocks, because it is not importan= t > > > for supporting Unicode characters in Emacs. > >=20 > > It would be easier for insertions when knowing the name is not straight= forward. > >=20 > > I can work on making the block names if I get some hints on what has to= be done. > > Or perhaps a schematic I can follow. Does this require lot of elisp exp= erience? >=20 >=20 > I don't know what has to be done, it depends on what kind of feature > and UI you have in mind. Something similar to doing C-x 8 RET mathematical TAB TAB but for blocks. Where a table gets displayed and one selects=20 with M-Up and M-Down, showing both the symbol and name. A problem with=20 C-x 8 RET mathematical TAB TAB is that it only shows letters, and does not include mathematical operators. Just categorising with "mathematical" is still too broad. =20 > > > If you are interested in mathematical symbols, then this should do: > > >=20 > > > C-x 8 RET mathematical TAB TAB > > >=20 > > > then keep hitting TAB to scroll through the list, or use M- and > > >=20 > > > M- keys. > >=20 > > Mathematical Symbols function like Emojis, it is easier to pick up the > > mathematical symbol you want rather than using their textual descriptio= n. >=20 >=20 > I don't agree. What's unclear about a name such as "MATHEMATICAL BOLD > CAPITAL A"? I never want NEITHER GREATER-THAN NOR EQUIVALENT TO=20 And much rather select the symbol directly. Emacs only supporting names without showing the symbol is very annoying and time consuming.